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From the discussion from JR Group - "Fundamentals of Vaar Chakra"

If today is a Saturday [a day ruled by Saturn] - can anyone give a mathematical proof to prove planetary lordship of a day? Panchaang or a calendar is secondary and came into existence much later. If there is a celestial experiment to announce planetary lordship of a day - let's have it! When does one planet transfer power to another planet and why? Every culture had its own nomenclature and some followed a 10 day week [Egyptians], some even less [5 day week] - please follow this article on Wiki - - can be safely used as a reference.

Somehow everyone now follows a standard 7-day week - who and what calculations were responsible for current week schedule to be adopted by all? If earlier methods were wrong, what calculations were wrong? How and why this synchronization took place - assuming there existed no interaction between far off lands or sea - cultures may have followed a different lordship for a given day. We did not discover a phenomena - until much later where we needed to introduce an imaginary date line - crossing which resulted in gain or loss of a day!

Is there a reference to such a phenomenon in Vaidik classical texts? If so, please mention relevant Shlok or text. Every astrologer - old or new - feels obliged to suggest remedies and some of these to be done on particular day of the week - depending on planetary lordship - a mountain-full of remedies - without even knowing the basic calculation to judge lordship of a day - some science that is!

So there are two questions -
(1) Fundamental query about planetary lordship of a day - calculations or an experiment - if possible, a reference from standard classical text.
(2) Do we have any reference [in Vaidik classical text] to substantiate the loss or gain or an entire day while a traveler may go around the planet on a round the world trip!
how do you assign a planet to any given day?

Days as linked to planets are both good and bad. Also human have good and bad actions in their routine, so specific days for specific purposes in specific timings have been detailed by our sages and they accordingly started and initiated those traditions for our benefit.

These are astronomical calculations regarding planetary movements, nature of planets and the experiences of the sages, wise men and reflected in Ved, Puraan and Upanishad. These have identification to culture as adopted from point of view of locations and existence. While Naarad Puraan gives account of the universe. Given below are verses from Purush Sooktam these were also referred to understand the presence of Nakshtra, planets and the combined energy they reflect on human beings as cosmic energy.

Thirdly day commencement and day ending have relation to Sun and Moon. Naming day/Vaar with specific planet and the calculation of Horaa is based on the wisdom and the need for the geocentric human being to save himself and also save the nature. Upanishad give full account of Brahm, Aatmaa and Paramaatmaa to explain physical aspects, internal issues. Planets as we know are part of Prakriti consisting of Panch Bhoot as well Aakaash or ether or space. We find Sun to rise at specific time and set in also specific time. Added to that we have seasons. If we agree that all these are astronomical features of Nature/Prakriti, the geocentric man experiences all these natural occurrences. We also know as part of zodiacal system planets rule over signs commencing from Aries to Pisces. Time however ie the essence for a person to keep himself busy and for day today action. The universe first recognized the bright Sun and later Moon and termed them as Pratyaksh Devataa /Daiv.

Human beings started the day routine as mentioned in Upanishad with prayers to Sun and assigning specific times for specific actions. Then there are other forms energies arising from the planets some visible to naked eye and some remote not visible, considered as A-Pratyaksh Devtaa representing for Panch Bhoot communication and experiences out of them. That are from Agni, Prithvi, Vaayu and Jal.The observations and experiences of sages as expressed in Sanhitaa of these Panch Bhoot are not uniform.

Purush Sookt Shlok
Chandramaa Manasa Jaata Chaksho Soorya Ajayat, Mukhandrigsch THAPRANDDWAYU
Ajayat  NabhyaaSDNATAeeks HAMSEERSHNORDYA Samavartatat, Padmabhyaam Bhoomirdishaa Stotratat

The whole Universe, the faith behind them can only be understood by the cultures that defined the ways of living of ancient man (Aadi Maanav). We therefore can not find uniformity not it desirable to think the energy in the universe in human representation or Panch Bhoot can be comprehended as one and the same. Days as linked to planets are both good and bad. Also human have good and bad actions in their routine, so specific days for specific purposes in specific timings have been detailed by our sages and they accordingly started and initiated those traditions for our benefit.
This is the order of Vaar Chakra.
1-Sun,   2-Moon,   3-Mars,   4-Mercury,   5-Jupiter,   6-Venus,   7-Saturn,   8-Raahu,   9-Kethu.

Sixth Graha from any Graha is dangerous when they are together
Example : 6th from Saturn is Mars - Saturn and Mars combination is dangerous /bad. There are 3 names for this combination.
(a) Agni Marut Yog.  (b) Yam Yog.  (c) Unmatt Yog.
Saturn + Mars = Ketu : Rishi Jaimini. Each Yog gets some meaningful results too.
Rest I can't share now.
siva Sarasalai
Here is the well known sequence of planets according to their mean distances from Earth :
Saturn  -  Jupiter  -  Mars  -  Sun  -  Venus  -  Mercury  -  Moon

Now, read this same list by skipping two planets in between, you will get the following order (of weekdays):
Saturn  -  Sun  -  Moon  -  Mars  -  Mercury  -  Jupiter  -  Venus
"our ancient Siddhaant and Puraan speak of planetary orbits and weekdays. But the explanation of their mutual connection is not available in an extant text, because the explanations were taught in classrooms and only the Sootra were written down".

The logic of weekday sequence was discovered by Babylonians around 400 BC, but the explanation provided is from Soorya Siddhaant, Bhoogol Adhyaaya, verse 78-79,  in which rationale for determining lordships of Horaa, Day, Month and Year is given. Soorya Siddhaant mentions that it was composed at the end of Krit Yug. Whatever be the time of Krit Yug in modern reckoning, it was certainly much before 400 BC. Hence, the logic of lordships of days was invented by the composer of Soorya Siddhaant. Moreover, Soorya Siddhaant gives the complete logic of the Lords of Horaa, Day, Month and Year (Horesh, Vaaresh, Maasesh, Varshesh) with reference to planetary orbits while the Babylonians had knowledge only of the weekday logic.
How do we fix the lord as Saturn on the 1st of Jan-2000 (for example only). If Kali Yug Din (day) number divided is by 7, it gives the Vaar Lord, for example today's Kali Din number is 1867611 ; expunging this number by 7 we get 4. This gives Tuesday, starting with Friday for 0, Saturday for 1 etc, but going to that day one (eighteen lakh, sixty seven thousand and ten days back), who fixed that day as the 1st day of Kali Din, and why? is there any mathematical formula (by celestial mechanics ) by which we fix the Vaar lords? was this used back then?
GS Sharma
Indian Siddhaant Jyotish is the last refuge of all mathematical problems of Jyotish. In Siddhaant, every computation starts from the beginning of the Creation. Start from the beginning of the Creation and count the number of years, days and Horaa up to the desired moment.

From the beginning of the Creation (Srishtyaadi), there were 1,955,880,000 years till the beginning of Kali Yug, equal to 714,402,296,627 days (or 102,057,470,946 weeks and 5 days). Two days were short from reaching at the same weekday. Hence, Sunday was the first weekday of Creation but Kali Yug began with Friday (2 days less). Therefore, Kali Yug began with 120 hours or Horaa less, which means after taking out 17 sets of 7 Horaa for 7 planets, we are left with one odd Horaa. Therefore, the first Horaa of Kali Yug was one Horaa advanced in number than the first Horaa of Creation. Soorya Siddhaant says that the sequence of Horaa must start with Saturn, hence if Saturn was the first Horesh of Creation than Jupiter must be the first Horesh of Kali Yug. These computations are based on Mean Kali Yugaadi based on Mean motion of the Sun. True Kali Yugaadi started nearly 51.5 hours earlier.

1,867,612 days have elapsed since Mean Kali Yugaadi up to the midnight of 29-30 May, 2012 IST (few minutes from now). It is equal to 266,801 weeks and 5 days : two days short from the weekday of Kali Yugaadi. First day of Kali Yug was starting point of Friday, hence after completion of 1,867,612 days we will get starting point of Thursday, ie, start of May 29, 2012 AD (Ujjain Mean Time). Since the same Horesh and the same Vaaresh repeat after each week, we have to tackle only the remaining odd days which are 5 days or 120 Horaa in this case. Leaving out the divisibles of 7, we are left with odd one Horaa. Hence, after midnight, 29th May 2012 will begin with Mars as the Horesh, ie one Horesh back from the first Horesh of Kali Yug Jupiter.

All above computations are based on the Ardh Raatrik system, in which Creation began with midnight at Ujjain. This system is perfect mathematically and is used in traditional Panchaang making (as well as in Saiddhaantik software made by me) and conforms well with actual events. But in actual practice, the 'day' of Hindu society starts with Sunrise and not with midnight. Again, true Kali Yugaadi is the real thing whose horoscope should be effective, while Mean Kali Yugaadi is merely a mathematical concept facilitating computations. Taking these nuances in cognizance, one can compute the Horesh of any day at any time on the basis of above computation.

I have taken the assistance of computer, but mediaeval astrologers did not possess calculators or computers and therefore sometimes erred in Saiddhaantik computations beginning with Srishtiyaadi. They should be pardoned due to lack of machines.
"We know the first Horaa Lord is the Vaar Lord" - This statement applies only to the beginning of each week, because there are only 7 Horesh and it is only after 7 days or 168 hours that the cycles of Horesh and Vaaresh coincide. Soorya Siddhaant is the most ancient text which provides rules for computing Horesh, Vaaresh, Maasesh and Varshesh.

Of these four, Horesh is the fundamental, that is why this science is called Horaa-shaastra. One day has three sets of seven hours with extra three hours left (22-23-24 hours), hence the next Vaaresh will be same as the 25th Horesh. That is why Vaaresh formula has a difference of 4 in the list of planetary order, while Horesh sequence is linear progression beginning with the farthest planet Saturn. Varshesh is similarly computed from Horesh, while Maasesh is just reversal of Horesh order.
Although modern man mahines himself to lie at the Sun and see a heliocentric cosmology, think for a moment you live on the Earth and look at the planets. On one side is the sequence of inner planets in heliocentric system, and on the other side there are outer planets. Both groups have different characteristics : inner planets have two difference types of heliacal settings and risings, while outer planets have only one type. Moreover, inner planets have the Sun as their Mean Position in computation formula of their longitudes while the outer planets have their own mean positions in proper place of mean. Thirdly, inner planets never go much away from the Sun. Hence, it is logical to keep these two groups as separate. Let us put them (outer and inner planets) in two different lines :

Sun--_______ Tue______ _______Thu_ _________ __Sat
______Mon___ ________Wed_ _________ _Fri

Now, take one planet from each group at a time, and you will get the Vaar Kram. What does it imply? It implies that each new day when the Sun rises, it sees a planet in opposite directions : on left side towards inner planets and then on right side towards outer planets, the whole series starting from the Sun itself, as if both the series lie of two separate helices intertwined on each other in a double helix like the DNA or a serpent pair. The Sun starts from itself and gives lordships of succeeding days to other planets in this order, on the egalitarian principle of equality of both groups.

Original mindset which imagined Jyotish was very different from modern mindset.
Modern man will laugh at the "primitive superstitions" such as the Vaar Kram, but unfortunately for them, these things actually work wonderfully in astrology!! It means things like Vaar Kram are not haphazard imaginations of primitive mind, but have fundamental connections with hidden Reality of the universe which primitive mind having sixth sense could see.
How do you fix the Horesh in the morning from Sooryodaya? Assume that we are not aware that today is Wednesday, then how do you go about fixing the Horesh for the first hour from sunrise?

There are many mediaeval handy formulas of computing Horesh, starting from some nearby date instead of Srishtiyaadi or Kali Yugaadi. You can easily devise a formula from the beginning of the 21th century. But that will need Ahargan computation. Unless you compute the actual number of elapsed Horaa or Vaar from your chosen zero date, you cannot get the accurate current result. All shortcuts divorced from the Saiddhaantik fundamentals will be wrong.

The method I cited (wrote to me by Shenoy ji a few days back) is rather simple does not require to create tables. The only criteria is one should know the days Kali Din number. It is as simple as that and any 8th standard student can know the Vaar from that number.
But that Kali Din number is also based on a reference date today's Kali Din number is 1,867,613. Expunging 7 (you can use mod() on excel sheet) you will get 6 and that represents Thursday.

By the above scheme
Kali Din day one = 1 = Saturday
That is the first day of Kali Yug was Saturday, the second - a Sunday.
Reference dates are acceptable provided there are any explicit classical writing that Kali Yug started on a Saturday.
Kali starting on a Saturn's day ????   Well it seems correct to that point.

Many Indians have now become westernized enough to call strangers with first name without a Ji which is used only for youngsters in India and is insulting for strangers, which even westerners do not like. But Vattem Krishnan Ji is still an Indian in spirit in spite of living in the West, and will recall that Geetaa says that persons with Aasuree Swabhaav think that the world came into existence by itself (without any supernatural cause), while the Vaidik Pauranik tradition says that the world was created by Lord Brahmaa. He was great Pitaamaha of even Kumbhkarn, and sleeps for an entire Kalp of 4,320 million years. His day of 4,320 million years has not reached even its mid point : only 1.96 billion years have elapsed since he was awakened (by Whom?).

There are 14 Bhuvan (Lok or worlds), and we are in the middle. Hence, we can see only 7 Bhuvan at a time, which means we can see only 13.7 billion years of Creation at present. That is the extent of most distant light scientists see.

After Lord Brahmaa awakes, he needs nearly 17 million years to create the Creation, after which the Srishti starts, before that only Kalp exists. Since there was no planetary motion before the beginning of Srishti, it was only Sunday before Srishti began, because before the first day of Srishti, which was Sunday, there was no day at all for entire night of the Lord. Thus, we can say He rests on Sunday, as Bible says. We ate little ants in these vast realms and should not venture further than our tiny legs support.

The topic about Vaar Chakra is closed, although one can extend it into previous Kalp as well. After all, Brahmaa Jee lives for 72,000 Kalp, and is born again and again from Vishnu Ji's navel. And wherefrom Vishnu Jee came? A Shaiv would say from Shiv's dance. And a Shaakt will say Shakti is the Primordial Cause. Find that Primordial Vaar or Horaa. We do not NEED that.
VJha, JR Group, 5/30/12

The same Horesh is repeated after a week, hence prepare a table of 168 Horesh for any given week on the basis of Saiddhaantik method I have described, and use it for any week previous or succeeding beginning from same weekday. Each particular weekday will begin with a particular Horesh. Do the rest of computation yourself on the basis of computations I have already provided.
VJha, JR Group, 5/31/12



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