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Jupiter and Saturn-Examples From "Jupiter-Saturn Nexus: an Exposition" by Mrs Mridula Trivedi The correct judgment of the horoscope needs a deep understanding of planetary relationships. I believe that the application of the fundamental rules of Astrology must be based on practical observation. Whatever has been said by our sages in the classics appears to be correct for different positions of planets for different Lagna. Some astrologers have said that Jupiter in the 5th gives mostly daughters while others have said this position gives more sons and some say that there will be no son at all. This is correct if properly applied and tested, eg Jupiter in watery signs gives mostly daughters, in fiery signs, male births and very bad results for Capricorn Ascendant. The Moon and Mars are supposed to be friends but Mars is debilitated in the Moon's sign Cancer while the Moon is debilitated in Mars' sign Scorpio. Jupiter and Mars are very good friends but Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn where Mars is exalted. Mars is debilitated in Cancer where Jupiter is exalted. Mars and Saturn are inimical but Mars is exalted in Saturn sign Capricorn whereas Saturn gets debilitated in Mars' sign Aries. Suppose the Moon is exalted in the 7th house, what results should be expected? The Moon is inimical to Venus – will it give inimical results in Taurus due to ownership of Venus or will it give the results of exaltation as Moon is exalted there? We find that mostly the Moon in Taurus in the 7th house, though the 9th lord (Bhaagyaadhipati), gives inimical results. In the 4th house the exalted Moon shows tensions with mother. Jupiter is inimical to Venus but Venus is exalted in the sign of Jupiter, Pisces. Such planetary relationships and behavior are beyond my comprehension. I can only say that both are quite different aspects and should not be mixed up. In my opinion it is always safer not to consider the exaltation or debilitation of planets at all. Here, we are only concerned with the relationship between Jupiter and Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's sign Capricorn and does not give auspicious results here. On the other hand Jupiter's placement in Aquarius, the other sign of Saturn, is very baneful while it has been described as very good in Saravali. In early 1987, a person dealing in drugs came to me. He was born in Libra Ascendant (Chart 1) with Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter and Saturn in opposition to each other. I had found that whenever Jupiter and Saturn are opposite each other, they exchange their characteristics. On the basis of this experience I told the native that his wife should have very ordinary complexion and she must have some kind of pain in the body, like rheumatic pain or arthritis. I also told the native, Jupiter's placement has given him a handsome physique, delightful manners, kindheartedness, sincerity, influential behavior, generosity etc. Thus Jupiter's influence as described for his position in Lagna could be noticed in the native.
Chart 1:
Born on 30-11-1952 at 5.00 hrs. at 29°N42', 71°E03' This
incident reinforced my earlier conviction that Jupiter and Saturn if placed
opposite each other exchange their characteristics. I have found in my
experience the following about the relationship between Jupiter and Saturn:--- No combination can give the same results in all possible positions or for all the Ascendants. A combination may be auspicious for one Ascendant while inauspicious for another. Dr B V Raman has explained in his various articles how the result of a Yoga should be applied in a horoscope. Such care must be taken for this Yoga as well. The application of the finding should not be verbatim. This is very valuable Yoga for accurate judgment of a horoscope. One school of thought has
described the combination of Jupiter and Saturn as auspicious for Aries,
Leo and Sagittarius Ascendants if these planets join the Ascendant or the
5th house. Jupiter stands for good and open actions while Saturn shows low and hidden things. Jupiter represents prosperity, wealth and children, whereas Saturn indicates adversities, poverty, sadness, depression etc. Mixed results should be expected when both these planets conjoin.
--In the 1st House Jupiter and Saturn make one cruel, indolent and lazy.
Such native does not get much happiness and comforts. Generally this is
not a good combination in Lagna for signs other that Sagittarius and Pisces. --In Chapter31, Shlok 79, 80,
81 and 82 of Sarvali Kalyanavarma has described the Yoga of Jupiter and
Saturn for all positions of Kendra. A few other works also have described the combination of Jupiter and Saturn as bad while some others have described it as good. There is much difference in their views. Let us see the effect of this combination on some horoscopes.
Chart 2:
Born on 19-3-1941 at 1-15 hrs. at 80°E56', 26°N51' Chart 2 is that of a lady who was a very good dancer and had defeated Gopi Krishna in her college days. She got married to a doctor and has two daughters. The combination of Jupiter and Saturn may be noted in the 5th house in Aries. Here Jupiter owns the Lagna and the 4th house and the position of Jupiter in the 5th must be encouraged due to relationship between angles and trines. But Saturn's conjunction with Jupiter has damaged the combination to a great extent. The following are the results of the combination: There have been only female children. The lady and her husband are both very fair and good-looking but the case is just the reverse with her daughters. A daughter became pregnant before marriage and this led to much humiliation for the family. Jupiter-Saturn conjunction is responsible or such children. This is not a good combination or wealth, if it has anything to do with the concerned houses. Here Saturn owns the 2nd house and aspects the 11th house. Her husband had very good private medical practice before marriage but the income gradually went down afterwards. She also suffered heavy losses. She suffered from liver troubles more than once and even now, has a sluggish liver.
Chart 3:
Born on 8-3-1960 at 0.40 hrs at 80°E50', 26°N50', The native is the son of a highly reputed and rich person. All the family members are highly placed except him. Saturn's conjunction with Jupiter in the 2nd house can be noted. Here Saturn owns the 3rd and 4th houses while Jupiter owns the 2nd and 5th houses. The native has no money. He has to depend on others even for a few rupees. He is just roaming about in search of a job. He has damaged the reputation his father to some extent. He could not get higher education. The combination of Jupiter and Saturn should be held responsible for it. However, the adverse results do not show up if Saturn is in own or exaltation sign.
Chart 4:
Born on 30-8-1961 at 9.45 a.m. at 80°E55', 26°N25'
The horoscope pertains to a native who has established many factories by
his own efforts and is an `A' class businessman.
Chart 5:
Born on 6-8-1962 at 4.00 p.m. IST at 80°E21', The native of Chart 5 is highly educated and intelligent. The combination of Jupiter and Saturn can be noted in the 2nd house. Jupiter in retrogression gives the results of exaltation, the native has a good financial position.
Chart 6:
Born on 21-10-1940 at 16:46 hrs. at 85°E22', 26°N7'
--The native is an Executive Engineer in PWD and has two daughters and a
Son. The children are very smart, beautiful and intelligent. The native
also possesses various moveable and immoveable properties. In the case of Virgo native (Chart 7
given below), Jupiter and Saturn are conjoined in the 4th house. The Sun and
Venus occupy the 10th house. The native is an IAS officer and is quite a happy
person from all angles.
Chart 7:
Born on 6-7-1960 at 10.55 hrs. at 26°N55', 80°E59'
Chart 8:
Born on 16-9-1960 at 5.53 p.m. at Hapur In Chart 8, Jupiter and Saturn are placed in the 11th house in Sagittarius. Jupiter is occupying 11th house as 2nd lord in association with the Lagna lord Saturn. The lord of the 10th Mars is also involved in mutual aspect with Jupiter and Saturn; so the native must have been a rich person as per the rules of Astrology. But in fact, he has suffered losses in business. He is doing nothing now. The native's education has also been indifferent and quite unhappy.
Chart 9:
Born on 15-7-1960 at 9.00 hrs. at 78°E39', 27°N33' This native expired on 15-10-1982 at the age of 22 years due to serious liver trouble (cirrhosis). Jupiter and Saturn's conjunction in the 5th house in Sagittarius may be noted which is responsible for the death of the native. The aspect of the Sun over Saturn has added fuel to fire.
Chart 10:
Born on 26-9-1960 at 4.45 hrs. at 80E56, 26N51 The combination of Jupiter and Saturn occurs in the 5th house in Sagittarius in the same position as in Chart 9. Mars occupies the 11th house and has an aspect over Jupiter and Saturn, which is most dangerous for the liver. The native also suffered from jaundice, liver abscess and other allied troubles. The purpose of both of these illustrations is only to show that the Jupiter-Saturn combination in the 5th house causes liver troubles in the digestive system. Jupiter and Saturn in Opposite Houses
Bhrigu Sutras mention (Ch.5 Shlok 1 to 6) that Jupiter in Lagna in own sign makes one a good speaker, well versed in Shaastras, he will have full knowledge of the Vedas, a number of children, will be happy, long-lived and learned. If Jupiter in Lagna is placed in an inimical sign or in debilitation, the native will indulge in sinful deeds, he will have an unstable mind and medium span of life. He will be childless, full of false vanity, will forsake near relatives and well-wishers, likes traveling, will be inimical towards others and miserable. Phal Deepikaa says that Jupiter in Lagna will give a handsome appearance. He will perform religious acts, will live long, be fearless and will have children. Now, let us see the results of Saturn in the 7th house. Saravali (Ch. 30 sloka 80) says that the native will possess a weak body, lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will make himself ugly and do mean acts. Bhrigu Sutram (Ch.7 Shlok 31) says: The native will have a lean bodied wife, will be afflicted in body, will indulge in prostitution. He will also be very sorrowful. Saturn in Lagna and Jupiter in 7th House
--Saturn in Ascendant makes one dirty, poor, ugly in appearance, miserable,
many diseases, sinful, etc., but in exaltation or own sign will make the
native equal to a king. Now let us see the position of Jupiter and Saturn in the above chart. Saturn occupies the 7th and Jupiter is posited in the ascendant with Mars. The native is a private medical practitioner. He is short-statured, dark complexioned, of elderly appearance and other qualities of Saturn in the Ascendant are present in him, whereas his wife is extremely fair in complexion, very charming in appearance and behavior and comes from a royal family. She is a famous TV actress. Married life is just tolerable but inclined towards unhappiness. Here Saturn is giving results as if placed in Lagna whereas Jupiter's influence is of the 7th house instead of the Ascendant. Thus Jupiter and Saturn have exchanged their results here. Let us see another chart for the confirmation of these findings. In Chart 1 Saturn occupies Lagna and Jupiter is in the 7th. The results are just opposite. Jupiter has given the results of Lagna while Saturn has bestowed the effects of 7th house. Here it again shows the exchange of properties between Jupiter and Saturn. The native of Chart 11 has a son and a daughter. The daughter is not married and is a cause of great worry whereas the son is also very dissatisfied with his job since many years. The native's practice is also below par. The native of Chart 12 is a professor in an engineering college. He possesses a house of his own and lands along with various movable properties. He has two beautiful sons and enjoys a very high reputation in society and among relatives. Jupiter and Saturn's opposition can be noted in the 10th and 4th houses. Here Jupiter and Saturn do not appear to exchange their results as Jupiter in Pisces has made the native a teacher. Saturn in the 4th house in Virgo has cause long trouble in his boyhood. Saturn in Virgo with the 5th lord Venus gives an inclination for engineering. Saturn is the lord of 8th house and its placement in the 4th house will cause chest trouble, illness to mother, gains through legacy and a complicated mind. Such a native hardly reveals his thoughts to any one. The native possesses these qualities. The mother of the native died of cancer in 1989. Chart 13 is of an engineer. He is good looking, possesses movable and immovable property, has three children, 2 sons and a daughter. The financial position is also sound. Jupiter falls in the 4th house in Pisces and Saturn is in the 10th house in opposition to Jupiter. The native's Jupiter is stronger, so Jupiter's results will be more prominent. The native is a very good-natured, well-behaved, kind-hearted and God-fearing person. Jupiter in the 4th house has bestowed on him much landed property. Saturn in Virgo in the 10th has made the native an engineer. If we compare this and the previous cases, we find that Jupiter is there in Pisces and Saturn in Virgo in both the cases. In the previous case Jupiter occupied the 10th house so the native is a teacher while in the present one Saturn is in the 10th so the native is an engineer. Jupiter is stronger as he is in own sign, therefore, Jupiter's result is prominent in both the cases. The native of Chart 14 born in Virgo with Saturn in Lagna has Jupiter in the 7th house. The wife of the native has a sickly constitution. She is an air hostess. She suffers from windy diseases, pains in the body, stomach troubles. So far as the native's physique and personality are concerned, they fit with Jupiter in the Lagna. He is very tall, extremely handsome and smart, very generous and kind-hearted etc. So here again we find that Jupiter and Saturn have exchanged their properties when placed opposite each other.
The native has changed many vocations including films but he is till
unsuccessful. He has a daughter. Natives where Saturn and Jupiter are in opposition are not very successful persons. They are not usually rich and are not properly settled in profession. The native of Chart 15 is an engineer in PWD and is a frustrated man. He has faced lots of troubles in life. There has mostly been a downward trend. He has two daughters and three sons. Even after completing 32 and 30 years of age, the daughters could not get married. The sons are a great cause of humiliation, disturbance and tension at home. Financially the native's position is below par and he is dependent on his sons. Jupiter is posited in Gemini in Lagna while Saturn is in the 7th. The wife's nature and appearance are of Jupiter and the native's personality is that of Saturn. Jupiter and Saturn's opposition in respect to Lagna should not be regarded as good. I have found that such a native is not a happy person so far as his professional settlement is concerned. There are many downs in life and such natives remain unsettled for a very long time. His earnings are not smooth, children are not placed in high walks of life and they are often a cause of worry. As far as physical characteristics are concerned, Saturn and Jupiter exchange their properties. The native of Chart 16 was born in Gemini Ascendant with Jupiter in 11th and Saturn in 5th in his sign of exaltation. The native is a clerk in the bank and is truth-loving. Saturn in the 5th would have made him a liar, cunning, very clever etc., as Saturn owns 8th house but it is just the reverse in this case. The native has daughters only. Usually Jupiter-Saturn opposition gives daughters if the Lagna is not a watery sign. Chart 17 is the horoscope of an ENT surgeon, who is very handsome and smart. He has an extremely beautiful wife and two daughters. Now look at Saturn's position in the 2nd house in Leo. That should not have given him such a magnetic face, magnetic speech and captivating eyes which he has been blessed with. Jupiter's position in the 8th in opposition to Saturn should also be judged. Jupiter in the 8th house and Saturn in the 2nd have exchanged their results. Jupiter gives the effects of the 2nd house in Leo. Saturn in the 2nd house has resulted in a serious accident to his car with a truck during Saturn's sub-period in Jupiter when Mars was transiting Leo. The accident took place on 12th August 1989. The native was hospitalized for multiple fractures. I have illustrated here several cases to prove the combined effect of Jupiter-Saturn' s conjunction as well opposition. I have found that Jupiter and Saturn exchange their properties when they are placed opposite each other except when the 4th house or where Jupiter is stronger. Particularly when Jupiter occupies his own sign; Jupiter-Saturn conjoin in the 2nd house, it is auspicious for learning, family, etc. But the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn cannot be regarded as very auspicious in all cases. In the Lagna, I have found this most damaging for career. Either both are conjoined or placed opposite each other.
If this Yog falls in the Lagna it is bad for settlement and happiness of
Life. It is bad for happiness from children. If Ascendant is a watery
sign, there will be many issues. There is much scope for further research in this combination. The combination of Jupiter and Saturn is a very important combination which should never be ignored. Otherwise, it will not be possible to judge a horoscope correctly. References: Chart 12: Born on 6-11-1951
at 19.39 hrs. at 79°35'E, 27°23'N Chart 13: Born on 12-6-1951
at 22.47.36 hrs. at 78-24 E, 27-9 N. Chart 14: Born on 26-8-1951
at 7.00 hrs. at 88-23 E, 22-35 N. Chart 15: Born on 1-12-1930
at 6-42 p.m. (IST) at 77E49, 28N30. Chart 16: Born on 17-12-1952
at 19-15 hrs. at 80E59; 76N55. Chart 17: Born on 23-9-1950
at 3-10 hrs. at 78E11, 29N23.
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